it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. >>> welcome back, president obama and hamid karzai have been holding high stakes meetings at the white house for over an hour now. the main topic on the agenda, the future of the u.s.'s role in afghanistan. the white house suggesting it is considering pulling all u.s. troops out by the end of next year. after meeting yesterday with secretary of state hillary clinton, he announced he has different expectations, 15,000 troops left in afghanistan beyond 2014. >> i can assure you mrs. secretary, that we have some -- with the help you'll provide be able to provide to the people and to protect -- >> joining me now live in our nbc studio, mim magazine director, we get to talk through the beauty of television most of the times. but i think a lot of people remember you conducted this exclusive interview with president karzai last month where he blamed the u.s. for his country's instability. based on that and what we've seen come out in the press so far in the appearances in washington, d.c., how do you think the meeting are going behind closed doors rights now?